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 Camera: Overview of Movie modes
Fuji E510 5.2MP Costco $259  LINK
 Movie recording: 10 fps, AVI (motion JPEG) with sound
Qicktime 320x160
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-W1 5.1MP
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-P100 5.1MP   Costco $379  LINK
 Maximum resolution: 2592 x 1944
 MPEG Movie Modes: VX Fine with audio (640 x 480 at 30fps), VX Standard with audio (640 x 480 at 16fps), Video mail (160 x 112 at 8fps)   
From Sony site
 • MPEG Movie Modes: MPEG VX Fine with Audio (640 x 480 at 30fps), (MPEG VX Fine requires Memory Stick PRO media), MPEG VX Standard with Audio (640 x 480 at 16fps), Video Mail (160 x 112 at 8fps) with Audio
  • 5-megapixel sensor captures enough detail to create photo-quality 13-by-17-inch enlargements
  • 3x optical zoom plus 2x digital zoom for 6x total
  • Carl Zeiss optics; high-resolution movie mode with sound; large 2.5-inch LCD
  • Compatible with Memory Stick and Memory Stick Pro media; includes 32 MB card
  • Powered by 2 AA batteries (NiMH rechargeables included); connects to PCs and Macs via USB 2.0

Movie Mode
Capture video with audio at 30 frames per second (fps) at VGA size 640 x 480; the included 32 MB memory card will store 87 seconds of vide at this setting. Movie length is only limited by the amount of storage you have on hand. The Video Mail mode captures a smaller movie (160 x 112 pixels) that's more suitable to sending to friends and family via e-mail.

The camera is light and small. It has plenty of "scene modes" that make it easy for anyone to take a picture. You can also take 640x480 movies with sound for as long as your memory stick pro will hold them. (If you are using a regular memory stick, the time is limited.) The camera is lightning fast, both in startup time and time to store an image after shooting. There is a "burst mode" too that can allow multiple shots to be taken in succession, but it is too buried in the menus to be useful unless you know that good action is coming.



- Big 2.5-inch LCD screen. Great for sharing movies and pictures right on the camera, and helps composing images. But, some annoying drawbacks (see cons).

- Max 30 second shutter speed in Manual mode. This is twice the max exposure time of most prosumer models priced hundreds more. This helps in getting creative with night shots.

- VGA 30fps movies (with Memory Stick Pro). Great movies, even in VGA 16fps. You can't use the Optical Zoom during shooting a movie, but you can set the Zoom to a specific range, then begin recording your movie at that locked Zoom setting. Also, I'm not sure if all cameras do this, but the Movie Mode actively adjusts focus AND exposure during the recording of a movie, AND you can use many still-image functions (such as Macro and Photo FX) during movie recording. However, some file size drawbacks (see cons).

- Smart Zoom digital zoom. Basically a loss-less digital zoom function available on the lower resolution settings. But, in simple terms: if you have it set on 3MP, it will capture the image at 5MP and crop the image out to make it 3MP size, giving the illusion of a zoom. It is a very handy feature, great for people who dont have expensive photo-editing software or know-how. But, if you are me, then you know you can get the same effect by taking a 5MP image, and then crop it in Photoshop.

- INCLUDED 2 rechargable AA batteries and charger. Great money saver, just buy another 4 pack of batterys to keep in rotation to recharge. Unfortunately, the batteries dont last as long as a proprietary would, and they take a dismal 6 hours to charge. But this is another reason that this camera is great bang-for-your-buck.

- Availiable in Black (which I bought), which is cool because it makes the camera look unique among the sea of hundreds of other digital cameras that are only available in brushed metal. This is the reason I liked the Canon S50 also.


- No 320x240 movie size. This would help in preserving memory if you want to capture movies that arent VGA. The VGA-fine setting is great looking, but a 256MB Memory Stick Pro can only hold about 2 minutes of it, which in my opinion, kind of defeats the purpose. If you are willing to shell out another $200 for a 1GB Memory Stick the movie mode might be worth it, but you should probably use that money to buy a better camera instead.
 I always find it's inconvenient to carry both digital camera and camcorder when going out. So I thought that I wouldn't upgrade my digital camera until I could find one which could take both good pictures and videos. This Sony DSCW1 made my dream come true. I haven't tried the pro card which can take 640 fine movie. I am already satisfied with the 640 standard movie on the regular card. Even though the quality and resolution is not as good as the digital camcorder, it's good enough to view on a computer and is very easy to load and burn on a CD (just like treating regular pictures, but need a viewer such as Realplayer to watch) so that I can share easily with other people. I like the pictures taken from this camera, too. I consider this as a 2-in-one in most cases
 I purchased this camera to replace my Canon Powershot S400 that I dropped and broke. I have always loved the pictures from the Canon S400 but was looking for something with better quality video. My husband has the Canon SD100 that takes great quality 640x480 video but only for 30 seconds at a time. I read about the Sony Cybershot DSCW1 and it sounded like the perfect camera; compact, 5 megapixels and 640x480 video that you could keep shooting as long as you have room on your memory card. So I purchased the camera and a SanDisk 1GB Memory Stick Pro to hold lots of pictures and video. We went out on a beautiful fall day to test it out. What a disappointment! Out of more than 100 pictures there were about 10 keepers...and even those weren't great. The brilliant fall leaves looked faded and the beautiful blue sky looked washed out and white in most pictures. The video quality was the biggest disappointment. In regular 640x480 mode the video kept going in and out of focus so nothing was worth keeping. In 640x480 fine mode the video quality was only slightly better than my Canon's 320x240 video and nowhere near the quality of the Canon SD100 640x480 video. So I sent the camera back for a refund. I read a review that said this camera is great if you know how to use all the manual features. But if you don't know your apetures from your f-stops and just want a good point and click camera, I don't recommend this one.
Kodak CX7430  What Aaron and Christina got
 The movie feature is a very nice touch since there are times when you really want to capture some great moments in motion. This camera has TV-quality movie features and captures very good movies in detail and with good sound quality. I use 256 MP secure digital card to store up to 12 minutes of movies in the highest resolution.

  • Canon PowerShot SD200  117 meg a minute 7 gig an hour - one user said 640x480 at 30 fps 8.5 minutes on 1 gig card.  511 seconds.   Rob has the S500
  • Canon A95 Dad, Rob (5meg) $400 (or A85 4 meg for $300) - Dad's 640x480 at 10fps comes to 35-38 meg a minute
  • Kodak  DX7590 $500- Paula has
  • Canon - 320x240 at 15fps comes to 20 meg a minute in our Thanksgiving videos, Monicas came out at 16 meg a minute
  • My Mpeg2 video Rich Camcorder- is 50 meg a minute or 3 gig an hour
  • Raw AVI from MiniDV CamCorders   (twice as big as PowerShot SD200) 225 meg a minute 13.5 gig an hour
  • Kodak CX7430 $200 Aaron Roper in 640x480  at 13 fps is 20 meg a minute according to one review, Aarons came out at 15 meg a minute
  • Sony MPEGMovie VX Smart Zoom  DSC-P41  Jennifer Carr 22 meg a minute MPEG (must be MPEG-1)
  • Pentax Optio S50 - looks like only 320 mode -  Movie: AVI (motion JPEG format) approx. 30fps/15fps with sound --  Movie mode 320 x 240 30fps 15fps 128MB 4min. 45sec. 9min. 12sec.
  • Sony in MPEG looks like 640x480 takes 24 meg a minute
  • QuickTime is MOV

Good Links  AVI vs MPEG 

Canon PowerShot SD200 Digital Elph    $300 Info link   $232 at Beach Camera
 The PowerShot SD200 Digital ELPH is the first digital camera to let you shoot in 60 fps full motion video (320x240) for fast moving subjects. You can also choose 30 fps (640x480) for general shooting. Plus, for e-mail attachments, there's a compact movie mode.
  • Great Reviews  CNet   Amazon
  •  The movie mode ROCKS. Imagine, shooting 640x480 at 30fps with NO TIME LIMIT! I bought a 1 gig 66x SD card, and can shoot until the card is full. At full res, 1 gig will hold 8.5 minutes, which is actually pretty amazing considering this is a tiny compact camera. You can also shoot 60fps, for slow motion FX, but that is limited to 360x240.
  •  One major improvement is that this thing can record AVI movies as long as memory remains. There are 3 video shooting modes and unlike other cams where there is a time limit, one of the video modes (the standart one) has no time limit.
  •  The 640x480 resolution is awesome. You can replay on your 19" monitor at full screen and the video will look great. Under the 640x480 mode, you can capture video at 30 frames per second (fps) or 15 fps, and there is no limit per clip as your only limitation is the amount of space you have left on your memory card. Under the 320x480 mode, you have the Fast Frame Rate option giving you 60 fps, up to 60 seconds per clip, which is great for capturing action shots such as your golf swing. While the main function of the camera is to take still pictures, the high quality video feature is so much fun that you will be using this a lot.
  • (optimize image processing speed by getting a SanDisk Ultra II SD memory card - you'll thank me later)
  • unlimited movie mode at 640x480, beautiful/handy 2" LCD really awesome especially on a camera this size
  •  The movie mode is almost as close as shooting with a regular video camera and it captures the audio with no problem.
  •  The tiny flash will work well up to about 10-12 feet or so.
  •  startup - by the time you finish pressing the on button you can take your shot (no flash). with flash pre-set on, you wait incrementally longer
  •  The picture taking quality works much better if you turn off the flash and adjust the flash and exposure, pictures are more vibrant and not so bright.
  •  Movie mode is wonderful.
  •  great 640x320 30 fps video (as good as some older camcorders)
  •  Well the multi-shot feature on this camera is LIGHTNING fast! If I hold down the shutter button I can take 25 pictures in 10 seconds, which is way faster than any other camera i have ever seen. I think a lot of this has to do with the quicker Secure Digital card instead of the older, slower Compact Flash card
  •  2)Unlike most cameras, the SD200 comes with a Li-ion batt, which provides hours of use, most cameras eat AAs like Krispie Kremes.
  •  The MPEG feature is also very good.
  • Uses industry standard SD cards, not propreitary memory sticks or xD.
  • 3MP and 3x zoom is the right combination for most people. Any more MP would a waste of money.
  •  is quick to take pictures (very low lag time)
  •  The ease of use is much better than other 3 megapixel point-and-shoot cameras
  •  The SD200 is noticeably smaller than the S410 or the S500, and even smaller than the SD110
  •  Also the SD200 has a far better movie mode than the G6. (It used Canon's new DIGIC2 processor, only seen so far on its really expensive cameras)
  •  Can't seem to get your kids smiling ?, with this camera, just set it in continious mode and hold the button down. over 2 shots per second! until you fill the memory card ! Your bound to get at least one with your kids smiling.
  •  SD200 vs. SD300 , i'd say go for SD200 . There is about $120 price difference. So spent that money on things that matter such a larger memory card (definite need) and an extra battery
  •  This camera is roughly 30 percent smaller (in terms of volume) and 40 percent lighter than the latest S-series PowerShot S410 and S500 models, . To achieve this reduction, Canon employed higher density glass in the lens design and a smaller CCD sensor chip (in addition to a smaller battery and flash memory format.) The resulting image quality is excellent for an ultracompact, but it is not up to the level of the S-series models, as can be seen by comparing image samples on Canon's USA consumer products web site and elsewhere.
  • Unlike other ultracompacts, the flash is reasonably powerful at short range. The large LCD is fine for reviewing information you would rather not upload to your computer.
  • Canon will soon release the SD300, a 4-megapixel version of the SD200. Packing more pixels into such a small sensor format will result in more image noise, so it is unlikely that the image quality will be better, and certainly not worth the extra $100+ at this image quality level.
  •  Low-light focus system dramatically improved over previous canon ultracompacts
  •  Canon switched from Compact Flash memory to SD memory, which reads and writes much faster.
  •  Fast start-up time -  Startup time is under 1 second (excellent)
  •  I would recommend 2 accessories:
    1. Canon Digital Elph Accessories kit for SD300 and SD200. This kit includes a spare battery, a sturdy case (just fits the camera, has a belt clip and handstrap, plus a steel neck strap).
    2. Sandisk 1GB SD card. Even though this is not the Ultra II highspeed card, I can still use it to shoot videos with the camera
  •  Switching from Photo to Review (and vice versa) is VERY fast
  •  The movie mode is amazing. I got a 1GB card and this doubles as my videocam.
  •  The SD300's charger, by contrast, is very compact; no bigger than the camera itself, and its plug swings out so you don't need any cord. The overally travel package of camera and charger is like carrying two tins of Altoids mints
  •  I'm not one to take movies with this type of camera, BUT the movie mode in the SD300 is truly amazing. I love this thing!
  •  This is my fourth camera from the Canon Powershot line, I use the high end SLR Canons professionally but carry a small camera with me for that once-in-a-life time shot that might appear; typically I use one of the Canon Powershot line as the software is familiar to me and they're rugged. I used the S40 for a year, the S50 for a month or so, and then the Powershot Pro1, all excellent cameras for their intentions.

    However, the SD300 will run rings around all of them, pointedly it has the instant on and instant auto-focus and immediate shooting that pros demand, but get only with the high-end SLR cameras, features that are sorely missing from the Powershot line. The digital lag problem, typical in low end cameras, culminated in the Powershot Pro1 wherein the camera is un-useable for motion shots or in poor light (it's still-life capabilities are excellent though). Now Canon has stuck their high end DIGIC processor and software in this cellphone-tiny Elph, since it has the same processor as the 20D, it feels closer to it in performance than it does to the rest of the Powershot line; indeed this is the first Powershot to have such a processor: It shoots sport-photo fast, ie 5 frames at full resolution every two seconds with enough of a buffer to get a dozen or so shots before it slows down, each shot appears immediately on its large screen, another first. It has an onscreen 9 point focusing (with green squares) that is user modifiable for the person-in-the-corner shot. The flash is so good it should be an attachment: shoots six different ways depending upon light conditions. My large hands had no trouble at all with the buttons, biggest problem I anticipate is forgetting its in my pocket and sending it through the laundry, its that thin!

    Now for the feature that none of the high end Canons have, including the multi-thousand dollar digital SLR line, and the other Powershots can only approximate: a 60 fps movie mode, Holy Cow! Shooting good quality slow motion movies with this credit-card-with-a-lens, what a hoot, it also shoots normal speed 30 fps for a 640x480 movies of surprising liquid-like evenness, there is no jerking even with rapidly moving objects. So not only is it a stand by still camera, if you are a film maker who needs a light weight movie camera around for that once-in-a-lifetime scene stick this one in your wallet. Home run for Canon.
  •  I bought and tried the Sony DSC-P150, Canon S410, and the Canon S70. They were all returned in favor of this little gem. This has the best movie mode, taking 640x480 at 30fps, and even has a 60fps mode for golf swings,
  •  Cons:  The flash is bright, so redeye is very common in many pictures.
  •  Cons:  Must remove the batter to charge it,Wish there was a cradle made for it, that charged it as well
  •  Another costly & propreitary battery from Canon.
  •  Battery life could be a longer. Used 2 generic $15 spares and they lasted as long as the Canon battery that shipped with the camera
  •  The software is cumbersome. I'd rather have a direct plug and play version, where i can transfer my images like from any other storage device. Having to go through a software is not appreciated.
  •  Don't expect it to get great battery life, especially if you're shooting with the LCD and Flash all the time
Canon Models
SD200 (3 meg, $299) and SD300 (4meg, $399) are the newest, they are the smallest canon with 3x optical zoom
 Canon PowerShot S60  Costco $439  LINK
Olympus C-5000  Retail $399   LINK
Largest is 320x240 at 15 fps  QuickTime Motion JPEG
 Kodak LS753 5.0MP  $299 Costco  LINK
  • 5.0 megapixels
  • Maximum resolution: 2569 x 1929
  • 2.8x Optical:
  • Video mode: Continuous MPEG-4 video with audio capture and playback on camera
  • Video length: up to 80 minutes, limited by capacity of external memory card
  • Video resolution: VGA (640 x 480) at 13 fps; QVGA (320 x 240) at 20 fps
    Nikon  Coolpix 5200 $349  costco  LINK   Nikon LINK
    File Format: JPEG (EXIF2.2/DCF/DPOF); Compressed: JPEG baseline compliant (Fine 1:4, Normal 1:8, Basic 1:16);
    Quick Time Motion JPEG (Movie); WAV(Voice)
    Shooting Modes -- Movie: TV movie 640(640x480/30fps), Small size 320(320x240/30fps), Smaller size 160 (160x120/30fps)
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